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Montana 1948 Readings/Natalie Goldberg Test 1 "I remember"
Montana 1948 Readings/Natalie Goldberg Test 1 "I remember" Marcy Gamzon • Sep 21 (Edited Sep 21) 100 points Due Tomorrow AGENDA:...
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AGENDA 1, For classwork credit: Read the following two stories by Sandra Cisneros. Then discuss the questions for Barbie-Q with a p...
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Choose ONE of the following topics and discuss it in a well-developed essay. You may use your book to provide text-based details. Post yo...
ReplyDelete9. What do you think is the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face being locked away? "It is meaning that drives most people forward into time and it is meaning that reminds them of the past, so they know where they are in the universe. But what about men like me? For us time doesn't exist." Think about time in your life and in the narrator's. How do you respond to him? What can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning? How is such a life measured? Think about not being able to touch someone or see the sky. How would that affect you for a day? A week? A year? A lifetime?
-I think the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face is the lack of care, something could happen to them in their like rape or abuse and no one would care because they are prisoners. I can relate that time just seems to pass and I’m stuck in this one place. Memories can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning. Such a life is measured by memories and imagination what you allow life to be. Not being able to touch someone or see the sky at first would probably be fine, I’ll live, but after time it will drive me crazy making me lonely and bored out of my mind it would put me in a deep depression.
10. What happens to people when they are incarcerated? How can we make the prison system more humane? Should it be humane or do convicts, regardless of the level of their crimes, "deserve what they get"? As a society, do we see prison more as punishment or as retribution? How can we save people from having failed lives? Is it possible to save someone?
-When people are incarcerated they are like an animal being caged, not allowed to live basically. We can make the prison system more humane by bettering the living conditions and caring more. I do think convicts should be treated with luxuries yet they shouldn’t be treated like an animal. I see it as both because both focus on punishment. We can save people from failed lives by allowing them to talk their stresses out instead of acting them out which lead to violence, it is possible to save someone.
11. Do you think that death offers release for men like York and the narrator? Did they find peace?
-I think that death is a punks way out of dealing with something hard, instead of fighting it you take the easy way out which may seem like peace to people of that sort.
12. Like the lady, Rene Denfeld is a fact investigator in death penalty cases. How do you think her work shaped the story? Did reading The Enchanted alter your view of prison?
-Her work probably inspired the story because she has experience with it. Reading The Enchanted did boosts my thoughts I already had on prison.
13. Rene Denfeld touches on many issues and themes: Mental illness, justice, time, kindness, remorse, forgiveness, the need for love and connection, life and death itself. Choose one or two and trace them through the novel, using examples from the novel to enrich your analysis.
-Love traces through the novel as it goes from the narrator's love for reading and imagination to the death row investigator and the priest finding comfort in each others dark past.
14. Why did you choose to read this novel? Did the novel surprise you in any way? Explain why or why not. What did you take away from reading The Enchanted?
-I didn’t choose to read this novel but it was an interesting story and gave me more insight on prison life. I took away from this novel that death is easy and life is hard.
9. I believe that the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face is the punishment of not death, but dying. Death, sometimes, can be welcomed, as it is by York in the story. Death isn’t particularly a scary thing, but it is dying. How one will face their final moments as their last breath escapes their lips. That is what I believe is the worst punishment for the prisoners, for if they think about how their time is beginning to run out, it can cause them to lose little bits of their sanity. In response to the narrator, for the prisoners, weeks, months, and years, may very well seem to combine and construct one large unit of time- A unit of time that does nothing but count down the seconds until one’s death. Not being able to touch someone or see the sky might cause a person to simply forget those aspects of life, and they’ll simply become used to the idea of it.
ReplyDelete10. When people are incarcerated their bodies become ash, and their remains are all stuffed into little jars. One person is not limited to a single jar, as they’re all compressed into jars together. I believe that while convicts are responsible for their crimes, the prison system should be just a tad more humane, since everyone deserves to be respected as a human. As a society, I believe prison is viewed more so as a punishment, because in the minds of a lot of people, “the convicts deserve what they get.” I do not believe it is possible to save people from having failed lives, because we cannot control one’s actions. We can only influence them.
11. I do believe that death offers release for men like York and the narrator, because it allows them to escape the prison walls, and it does indeed help them find peace.
12. I believe that the author’s work shapes the story because she actually has firsthand experience with all of the things that go on inside of a prison (from the lady’s perspective, of course). Reading The Enchanted altered my view of prison because it gives more insight into the lives of all of the people that are associated with a prison.
13. Mental illness is something that comes up often within the story, because a lot of the prisoners have mental illnesses that have influenced their decisions in the past. Also, time is an important aspect of the story, because some of the characters lose the sense of time passing altogether.
14. In all honesty, I chose to read this book because I wanted to get a good grade in this class. However, after reading the story I found that I really liked this book. The novel did surprise me, since I did not expect some of the events that occurred within it.
9. The Worst punishment the prisoners face from being locked away is their restriction from the outside world and their inability to experience events outside the prison gates. I think that the reason time doesn’t pass for him is because he has no meaning in his life, nothing to care for, nothing to worry about, so therefore time is of no significance. Love can give a life that is not measured by the events of time meaning. Such a life is measured by relationships with other people. If I couldn’t see the sky or someone for a week I would be grateful once I returned to society, if it was for a year, by the time I returned I would probably have gone insane, and if it was for a lifetime I would have very few human qualities.
ReplyDelete10. When someone is incarcerated they are sent to prison. The prison system can be more humane if the prisoners were treated better, given better meals, and a better education with the hopes of rehabilitation. Prison should be humane for the majority of people but there are some who commit such horrible crimes that humane treatment isn’t just. Prison is more retribution that punishment.We can save people from failed lives by helping each other out and by educating ourselves to the best of our ability. It is possible to save someone by teaching them how to act and teaching them valuable information.
11. Death offers a release for men like York and the Narrator because right before death each of them both were described as content. They found peace from death because it was an end to life in prison.
12. Her work allowed her to have an insight on the way criminals are treated, the way criminals act, the way guards act, the way that authorities act, the way family members of the criminals act, and the way lawyers act surrounding prison. Reading The Enchanted did not significantly alter my view of prison.
13. Rene Denfeld touches on many issues and themes: Mental illness, justice, time, kindness, remorse, forgiveness, the need for love and connection, life and death itself. Choose one or two and trace them through the novel, using examples from the novel to enrich your analysis. Rene Denfield uses the theme of mental illness throughout the novel when she talks about the narrator, the lady’s mother, and York’s mother. She talks about the theme of death when she talks about the murders the criminals committed in prison and out of prison, York killing his rabbit, the prisoners being sentenced to death, York and the lady’s mother dying outside of prison, and the warden’s wife dying at home.
14. I chose to read the novel because it looked intriguing and my friends told me it was good. The novel surprised me when I found out who the narrator is and how he seemed to know the impossible because the whole novel keeps his name anonymous, or at least keeps the reader from 100% figuring out who the narrator is. From reading The Enchanted I learned how terrible some prisons can be and how not only the prisoners in prison can commit crimes within prison because some guards can also do illegal acts, I got some insight on how some criminals think, especially those on death row, I also found out that people like child rapists aren’t always targeted, just the weak and weird people are the ones attacked by other criminals.
9. I think the worst punishment of being locked away is not being able to see your friends, family or anyone. Not being able to go to your favorite places, such as your favorite restaurant or to the beach or an amusement park. You just have to sit in a dark room. Not being able to touch someone or see the sky would drive me crazy. If I couldn’t see the sky I’d think there was no beauty left on earth, because to me the sky is the most beautiful thing I’ve seen.
ReplyDelete10. I think we could make the prison system more humane by leveling down the amount of privileges they get. I mean, they get a gym, library, showers whenever, somewhat good food. I think we are giving some of the prisoners too good of a life. Some prisoners don’t deserve half the amount of privileges they get. I feel we should give some criminals a bit of a harder time in prison. We can save people from having failed lives by talking to them, getting them off of drugs or alcohol if they have an addiction, helping them if they are going through a hard time. It is possible to save someone, but not everyone. Some people won’t listen, some people won’t accept help, and that’s why sometimes people turn into the way they are.
11. Death offers release for men like York because he has to live in guilt knowing he committed the crimes he did. He wants to die, because he thinks he deserves it, but also because if he doesn't, he will have to spend the rest of his life in prison. Although life in prison is a great punishment, York would still have to live with the guilt.
12. Her work let her see how life in prison really is. How criminals are, how guards are, how the criminals families are. Reading The Enchanted did not change my views of prison, because it described prison to me basically, except it did not include some of the luxuries prisoners get.
13. Mental Illness is definitely portrayed in this novel because the narrator acts as if he has some sort of mental illness, especially in the beginning. “I see the golden horses as they run deep under the earth, heat flowing like molten metal from their backs.” (Page 1) I don’t really understand what the golden horses represent but it seems to me he acts as if he has hallucinations.
14. I chose, well, technically I didn’t choose with my own free will, I was assigned to read this for school, and decided to so I wouldn’t fail. The novel surprised me a bit, because it is always in the narrator's point of view, and it’s a bit odd how he knew everything.
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ReplyDelete9. What do you think is the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face being locked away? "It is meaning that drives most people forward into time and it is meaning that reminds them of the past, so they know where they are in the universe. But what about men like me? For us time doesn't exist." Think about time in your life and in the narrator's. How do you respond to him? What can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning? How is such a life measured? Think about not being able to touch someone or see the sky. How would that affect you for a day? A week? A year? A lifetime?
ReplyDeleteAnswer~ I think the worst punishment for the prisoners is being restricted from the outside world like I get it they've done some horrific things but they need a little bit of sunlight and fresh air. Being locked away for so long and not being able to have any contact with the outside world can be really for people like someone could really go crazy. It would make you feel like a caged animal.
10. What happens to people when they are incarcerated? How can we make the prison system more humane? Should it be humane or do convicts, regardless of the level of their crimes, "deserve what they get"? As a society, do we see prison more as punishment or as retribution? How can we save people from having failed lives? Is it possible to save someone?
Answer~ If you commit a crime and get caught of course your going to have to do some time. The only way us as a society can save someone is by like trying to talk them and figure out why they did what they did. However there's some people that don't show any type of remorse and you can't really do anything about that. If someone doesn't want help or want to be saved then what are you going to do.
11. Do you think that death offers release for men like York and the narrator? Did they find peace?
Answer~ After committing a crime and when you get caught if you want to die your running away from your problems. I don't think that's finding peace that's being a coward and that's probably how you'll be remembered.
12. Like the lady, Rene Denfeld is a fact investigator in death penalty cases. How do you think her work shaped the story? Did reading The Enchanted alter your view of prison?
Answer~ It shows you how like everyone is really treated.
13. Rene Denfeld touches on many issues and themes: Mental illness, justice, time, kindness, remorse, forgiveness, the need for love and connection, life and death itself. Choose one or two and trace them through the novel, using examples from the novel to enrich your analysis.
Answer~ Mental illness is portrayed a lot in the novel because these prisoners made a lot of decisions in the past that's based off of that.
14. Why did you choose to read this novel? Did the novel surprise you in any way? Explain why or why not. What did you take away from reading The Enchanted?
(Questions published by the publisher.)
Answer~ I mean it was an assignment but it was good to like really learn things that you never really thought about or took an interest in.
9. What do you think is the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face being locked away? "It is meaning that drives most people forward into time and it is meaning that reminds them of the past, so they know where they are in the universe. But what about men like me? For us time doesn't exist." Think about time in your life and in the narrator's. How do you respond to him? What can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning? How is such a life measured? Think about not being able to touch someone or see the sky. How would that affect you for a day? A week? A year? A lifetime?
ReplyDeleteI’d respond to him saying time will still exist for him to make great things happen. A life no longer measured by time can begin to feel infinite and endless. This feeling should make you want to start anything. You can teach yourself anything. Not being able to see the sky or touch someone would take a huge toll on me. The beauty in not being to see or touch these things after doing so for years would feel so out of whack. The thought is unbearable.
10. What happens to people when they are incarcerated? How can we make the prison system more humane? Should it be humane or do convicts, regardless of the level of their crimes, "deserve what they get"? As a society, do we see prison more as punishment or as retribution? How can we save people from having failed lives? Is it possible to save someone?
When a person is incarcerated they begin to feel their life is over. Some know they’ll never leave those walls. They know they’ll die in there. It seriously changes a person’s psyche. The prison system can be made more humane by creating more ways to positively interact with prisons. I believe prisoners should face different levels of treatment depending on their crime. Broken into sections based on crime so they can carry out the punishments necessary. Prison is a place of containment for those who deserve to be punished, and those looking for retribution.
9. What do you think is the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face being locked away? "It is meaning that drives most people forward into time and it is meaning that reminds them of the past, so they know where they are in the universe. But what about men like me? For us time doesn't exist." Think about time in your life and in the narrator's. How do you respond to him? What can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning? How is such a life measured? Think about not being able to touch someone or see the sky. How would that affect you for a day? A week? A year? A lifetime?
ReplyDelete-the worst punishment i think they face is lack of assistance and not being cared for. They get raped and abused and no one is there to help them. I think time doesn't exist for him and it doesn't go by because he was nothing to live for.
10. What happens to people when they are incarcerated? How can we make the prison system more humane? Should it be humane or do convicts, regardless of the level of their crimes, "deserve what they get"? As a society, do we see prison more as punishment or as retribution? How can we save people from having failed lives? Is it possible to save someone?
-i think we can make the system more humane by giving them a reason to wake up and do something with there time in there. Not just let them waste there life doing nothing because they are in there. it should be humane for the majority of the prisoners but those that have committed horrible crimes they shouldn't receive so much freedom.
11. Do you think that death offers release for men like York and the narrator? Did they find peace?
-I think death offers the release for men like york because wants to die and its better for him to die in peace than live like a monster for the rest of his life. I know its a coward move but its his only choice.
12. Like the lady, Rene Denfeld is a fact investigator in death penalty cases. How do you think her work shaped the story? Did reading The Enchanted alter your view of prison?
-Her work gives her a better understanding an outlook on prison and hoe the guards are and how the prisoners are treated and what they do. After reading the enchantment my outlook on prison has not changed.
13. Rene Denfeld touches on many issues and themes: Mental illness, justice, time, kindness, remorse, forgiveness, the need for love and connection, life and death itself. Choose one or two and trace them through the novel, using examples from the novel to enrich your analysis.
-mental illness is is portrayed in the story because the narrator seeing imaginary enchantment in the prison that others dont see and york just doesn't want to face is anymore.
14. Why did you choose to read this novel? Did the novel surprise you in any way? Explain why or why not. What did you take away from reading The Enchanted?
i read this book because it was given to me to read for a grade but once i started reading it did get interesting and have full meaning.
9) The prisoners face loneliness and emptiness. They lose a sense of life and society, taking away what makes humans, humans. They become empty caskets. He is right about his view on time. It eventually does get lost if there’s been too much time in which you don’t keep track anymore. Life that isn’t measured by the events of time drones on. You aren’t looking forward to anything. There is no pit stop. This life isn’t measured by anything. You simply wait for your last breath. If I was not able to touch someone or see the sky, it’d greatly affect me. My personality would change and I’d be more secluded. I would forget how to talk and properly communicate.
ReplyDelete10) When people are incarcerated, they become a person that is different from who they once were. The prison system will be corrupt for a long time and many people do not think that criminals deserve a humane environment after committing terrible crimes. However, we can probably provide them more company or better living like food. As a society, we see prison as both punishment and retribution. It depends on the person. Maybe the punishment is the retribution. There is not much hope for saving a failed life because it’s all a gamble whether or not it will actually be successful. It definitely is possible, but not many organizations want to put in money saving someone that is chanced.
11) If York and the narrator sees death as the release, then it is. That was their peace because they were happy in the end with the death.
12) Her work shaped the story because she is experienced with this job. She knows the innards of the system and can relate to the personal feelings of the lady and a little bit of the prisoners. The Enchanted did not alter my view. I was already aware of how corrupt it was, and that all prisoners are convicted of something. They are not all innocent just because I might be sympathetic of them.
13) - Mental illness: York’s mother and the lady’s mother. They both end up corrupt and face unfortunate ends in their lives. Their actions shape the futures of those two characters but they end up in different circumstances.
- Need for love and connection: the lady and the priest. The priest and his previous girl. The priest just wants someone to be there for him, just like the lady. They take forever to come to the conclusion that they were both seeking each other.
14) I thought reading the first chapter in class that it was interesting and I carried on with it right away. The novel did surprise me, especially at the end when I discovered who was narrating the entire time. From The Enchanted, I learned that sometimes trying your best will not work if the person you are working to better isn’t cooperating. You just need to let it go.
9. What do you think is the worst punishment that the prisoners in the novel face being locked away? "It is meaning that drives most people forward into time and it is meaning that reminds them of the past, so they know where they are in the universe. But what about men like me? For us time doesn't exist." Think about time in your life and in the narrator's. How do you respond to him? What can give a life that is not measured by the events of time real meaning? How is such a life measured? Think about not being able to touch someone or see the sky. How would that affect you for a day? A week? A year? A lifetime?
ReplyDeleteI’d respond to him saying time will still exist for him to make great things happen. A life no longer measured by time can begin to feel infinite and endless. This feeling should make you want to start anything. You can teach yourself anything. Not being able to see the sky or touch someone would take a huge toll on me. The beauty in not being to see or touch these things after doing so for years would feel so out of whack. The thought is unbearable.
10. What happens to people when they are incarcerated? How can we make the prison system more humane? Should it be humane or do convicts, regardless of the level of their crimes, "deserve what they get"? As a society, do we see prison more as punishment or as retribution? How can we save people from having failed lives? Is it possible to save someone?
When a person is incarcerated they begin to feel their life is over. Some know they’ll never leave those walls. They know they’ll die in there. It seriously changes a person’s psyche. The prison system can be made more humane by creating more ways to positively interact with prisons. I believe prisoners should face different levels of treatment depending on their crime. Broken into sections based on crime so they can carry out the punishments necessary. Prison is a place of containment for those who deserve to be punished, and those looking for retribution.
11. Do you think that death offers release for men like York and the narrator? Did they find peace?
Death offers release for the people that’s still alive. The people that die, die with their crimes and don’t truly find peace.
12. Like the lady, Rene Denfeld is a fact investigator in death penalty cases. How do you think her work shaped the story? Did reading The Enchanted alter your view of prison?
Her work shaped the story because it influenced her connection and accuracy to how the prisoners feel.